美國亞太副助卿柯慶生最近的聲音,對於台灣而言,真像隻烏鴉,聒噪又難聽﹗但是細讀他演說的全文,對於民、國兩黨兩項公投案的比較,他說出了若干實情,也正式提醒台灣人民,﹁入聯公投﹂才是有效的,﹁返聯公投﹂則是徒勞無功的。
更有甚者,國民黨的﹁返聯公投﹂究竟是什麼碗糕﹖柯慶生講得更絕,他說一個不涉及國號變更的公投,讓美方覺得﹁奇怪且無用︵odd and unproductive︶﹂,﹁大家也知道這項公投無助入聯的成功﹂,﹁也知道這項公投只是針對台灣內部政治需要﹂,即使如此,他仍表示﹁美國不會支持這項公投﹂。
相對於柯慶生對民進黨入聯公投有關涉及國號變更的指控,柯坦言對返聯公投﹁不至引起美國強烈反應﹂,原因就出在其所表述的國民黨提案根本是無效的,說穿了投了也等於白投,等於是台灣關起門來自我欺騙,形同過去十四年每年虛應故事返聯向人民交代,事實上撼動不了什麼國際現況,既然如此,馬英九在玩真的、玩假的﹖不就透徹清楚了。
至於民進黨的﹁入聯公投﹂,柯慶生不自覺講出了其對台灣生存發展的重要性,他說這項公投草案提出﹁台灣應在國際組織中被如何稱呼﹂的問題,而且是要以﹂具有法律拘束力﹂的方式通過,易言之,這項公投是有效的,即因為其有效,所以知道﹁楣角﹂的中國因此跳腳,押著美國必須出手處理,不讓此一公投實施來使台灣獲有明確的國際人格。
國民黨一九七一年退出聯合國貽害台灣三十餘年還不夠,現在居然拿著一個沒用的公投想要繼續欺詐,馬英九昨日誑稱﹁返聯公投是在維持現狀下,讓台灣邁向重返聯合國的目標﹂,早已被柯慶生公開戳破,他卻繼續遮天愚民,真是藐視人民到了極點。



1. 全世界148个国家齐声向台独说OUT
全世界148个国家齐声向台独说OUT
台独当局今年首度以"台湾"名义申请为世界卫生组织(WHO)会员,经大会投票,148个国家拒绝接纳台湾,台湾25个所谓的"邦交国"也只有17国支持台湾加入WHO.
美国、日本和欧盟(共二十七票)全部投下反对票,美国首席代表(卫生部长李维特)还在记者会上公开表示「不支持台湾成为WHO正式会员」,并拒见台湾代表.
为什么会这样呢?很简单,因台独当局违背了全世界共识的"一中政策",违背共识,就是制造麻烦,台独当局的外交就是在碰触"一中",制造麻烦,来转移执政失败的焦点,这也就是处处碰壁的原因,也就是处处惹人厌的原因.
明知石头是硬的,还每天拿脑袋去撞之,为什么?也很简单,为了「内部消费」,拿着自己满脸是血的脑袋,对着台湾人说:"你们看看,石头每天都在打压我,好悲情噢".
台独执政是靠2大法宝,一是悲情,二是制造仇恨,
以"台湾"名义申请进入WHO,正是一石二鸟之计,
被拒门外,这正是台独所要的,有了悲情,说是被打压,打压再宣传出仇恨来,外仇大陆,内仇外省人,台独就是如此的操弄着台湾转个不停,台独不在乎空转,他们只要执政,只要掌权,只要捞钱!
老K連論述能也退化到,到處假中共之名,來混淆殖民台灣的不正當性!
胡錦濤深知,台灣問題對支那內部是一種虛偽的政治宣傳
因為他們共產黨下的中華民國,根本沒有台灣.
一直到1982年才非法自慰式的納入,一點也沒任何正當性
台灣能有新聞自由真棒, 可以有不同的聲音.
版主這篇分析已經登在報紙上了嗎?
TO:高雄人
尚未上報,寫好了想先發表,以吐胸中塊壘,
真的很高興台灣還有一些心智正常的媒體. 之前在閱讀聯合報系的世界日報, 讀到有關美國沒有反對國民黨版法案時, 我就覺得有點怪怪的, 果然.... 南韓今天不爽老美, 但是為了不想過度依賴中國, 還是想盡辦法拓展多元外交. 台灣當局是真的該好好思考, 重新調整一下外交政策.
還有最近真的扯了很多謊, 真的很累, 我必須承認....我不是新加坡人(其實版主也得"負點責任," 幹嘛對我這麼友善呀, 搞得我每天下班來這兒發帖, 都還有點罪惡感).
終於知道
說一個謊,需要更多的謊掩飾
沒那麼難猜吧? 會有哪一個新加坡人對台灣事務這麼關心的? 這麼了解的? 除非是間諜吧?
我是台灣人啦. 只是之前"人來瘋"而已.
我現在會少去Chinatown.
國民黨的立委都曾經公開說他們【反聯公投】是玩假的了。
泛藍媒體也跟著唱和說都是民進黨辦公投,害他們不得已才辦公投。
怎奈現在又要裝的一本正經,嗆聲就算民進黨不辦【入聯公投】,
他們也要堅持辦【反聯公投】。
小丑跳樑,醜態畢露,
只好連美國人公開說的話,都要斷章取義了。
只是這樣真的欺騙的了民眾嗎?
你還是當高雄人好了
自由自在獨立思考的高雄人
其實你也是想支那能夠好一點,人之常情.
但那根本不可能,控制的天衣無縫
溫家寶說一百年內不可能民主
也不是空話
平時吃喝玩樂,選舉一到就發瘋!
別理會
以前跟高雄人吵的算平手囉
第8篇文章是我發的,高雄人看世界兄發的文章他都會簽名。
請問#10也是您發的嗎? 我以前只跟輕鬆一下和CHICHI吵過架而已(真的很慚愧, 入社會這麼久, 還是偶爾會控制不了情緒). 不過被罵也是活該. 其實美國一些華裔美國人(有正義感的也不少)對台灣的態度真的不是很好. 日子久了, 在耳濡目染之下, 多少也受到一些影響. 真的很無奈.
像"中華台北"跟"中國台北"的英文根本沒啥差別. 要將其翻譯成英文, 並且解釋給外國友人, 讓對方了解北京的無理簡直難如登天.
談到共產黨, ABC也會罵. 但是不曉得為甚麼, 只要提到台灣, 沒有一句好話.
偏偏台灣鄉親又很"謙虛," New York Times的老外記者都會去寫報導, 強調竹科重要性, 有些台灣人卻只會說"台灣可能比北京還要小喔"之類的屁話, 我真的實在是....
台灣當局就繼續堅持入聯公投吧, 一旦收手, 親中派可以光明正大指責台灣就是要搞政治. 這只會對台灣造成另一次的傷害而已.
只是一個小建議, odd是不是翻成奇怪會比較恰當?
BY 高雄人看世界
>>"我是台灣人啦"
所以你只是說了一個小謊? 亦即你其實是在美"台灣人", 而你爸爸來自中國, 你媽媽來自台灣?
那我想你的謊言也沒多嚴重, 只是還要提醒你,台灣是一個多元的國家,她容許多種聲音,各種人種只要你不要蓄意傷害台灣(人)
另外,我承認你寫的文章許多都很有深度,但說實在的對於台灣,你還是不是那麼了解
高雄人
1,你沒提醒,我還沒發現我老眼昏花,根本就看錯字了,
2,沒想到你的"告解"已經引起這麼多人回應,看來網友都有注意你呦,你
和CHICHI可以和解了,切磋筆技,不必動氣
TO高雄人你也不用不好意思,如果你的言論偏藍,版主可能不會對你疼愛有加,今天你的承認雖然不知是真是假,但是版主也心平氣和回覆,可見版主也做到切磋筆技,不必動氣,但願能像前天武林徵文一樣,大家開懷一笑,不是很好嗎
說了你一定不會相信, 老爸老媽都是台灣人啦.... I know, 可能我之前真的瘋了.... 之前吳釗燮提了一個心理名詞, 我忘了叫甚麼, 但是意思是被害人會去替加害人說話, 我的情形就是這樣囉.
有得時候真的會忍不住立場動搖, 幻想自己如果是中國人, 就不需要去忍受被孤立的感覺(今天的美國華人社會, 因為台灣移民人數的增加, 已經有所改變. 不過當年, 日子可沒現在這麼好過).
我知道會有這種想要去追求"被認同"的觀念很可笑, 但是身為一個不會講河洛話的河洛人, 從小被父母灌輸大中國觀念, 偶爾還是會"失常."
但是不管如何, 身為一個記者, 要是連基本原則都不能遵守, 那我也沒資格在新聞界繼續待下去.
我沒長期駐守在台灣, 確實不完全了解島內事務.
不過最近有個好消息, 我同事跟我說, 在加州, 等到阿諾簽署一項已經通過的法案後, "台灣人"將被視為一個獨立的民族.
我打從心底佩服真些不怕被親中華裔美國人攻擊, 努力替台灣爭取應有權益的海外同胞!
說實話的感覺真棒! 之前想盡辦法圓謊, 不過仔細想想, 版主也不是笨蛋, 還是自己招了吧(因為我自己也覺得我編的故事蠻牽強的).
謝謝大家沒有口出惡言, 願意原諒我. 未來保證不會在"轉性"了!
BY 高雄人看世界
這叫做斯德哥爾摩症候群!
就是這個詞兒.
我最欣賞我們鄒副總
真正有才幹的人,絕對不是小鼻子小眼睛的!我最欣賞我們鄒副總,太太也常跑來這裡插插花,她毫無驕氣,秀外慧中,是一位有深度的好記者!我可不是拍她馬屁,因為她跑政治,我在社會,不同領域不同單位,拍她馬屁對我是絲毫沒有好處的,純粹是多年的觀察。
高雄人看世界不用太介意,網路世界原本就天南地北胡說八道的居多,像我公開具名勇於負責者幾稀!希望你本於愛護自己和愛護台灣之心,繼續發言,英雄原本就不在乎出身低微與否,好好發揮你的才幹吧!我的學歷就僅止於大專,但是沒什麼好丟臉的,因為我好朋友鼓勵我去讀EMBA,我一想這些台灣的不少博士學者教授平常在談話性節目的表現都是那種德性,算了,讀我愛讀的書,做我愛做的事,快意人生,開心就好!
也不是毫無缺點
唯一的缺點:酒量太差。
至少比起我來差太多。
謝謝瑞德大哥的體諒與鼓勵!
瑞德兄
你溢美了,看你經營部落格的用心,十分汗顏,近來上來的時間愈拉愈
久,更別談花心思了,網友的交談往往比主文更有趣,包括你的武林帖在
內
高雄人看世界兄,第10篇不是我發的。
以後我發的文章都會用我的名字,請大家多多指教。
我最欣賞我們王瑞德
王瑞德真會寫文章,文章寫得真好﹗看它欄古錐的小仙姑噘嘴翻白眼,頭頂冒煙,就覺得台灣真是一個太美麗太可愛的地方了。
(小老鼠 上桌台 偷豆腐吃 下不來 叫媽媽 媽媽不來 嘰哩咕嚕下來)
【台灣】正常國家決議文必須加入「正名台灣」﹑「制定新憲」!!
915高雄超過50萬人的【台灣入聯公投】遊行晚會﹐快樂﹑積極的台灣人民以健壯的步伐正奔向【台灣共和國】﹐是台灣人民在【創造「台灣國的歷史」】﹐是台灣人民【深深感動了每一個「綠營政治人物」】!! 偉大的台灣人民﹐加油﹐加油﹐加油!!!
2008年綠營立委﹑總統選舉的【必勝武器】就是--【台灣】這兩個字﹔也就是: 【台灣】正常國家決議文﹑【台灣】入聯公投﹑【台灣人民】討黨產﹑【台灣人】全面執政。
●【台灣】這個名字要說∕寫出來﹑響起來!
●【台灣人民】要站起來﹑走出去!
●【台灣的生活】要幸福起來!
●【台灣的土地】要香起來!
●【台灣的歷史】要講出來!
●【台灣的文化】要熱起來!
●【台灣的鄉情】要濃熱起來!
●【台灣的。。。。。。
【台灣】﹑【台灣】﹑【台灣】對2008年的立委﹑總統勝選之因素﹐就如同地點﹑地點﹑地點 (Location ﹑Location﹑Location) 對房地產價值的絕對要素。沒有人敢用負面文宣攻擊【台灣】這個國家的名字﹑人民﹑風俗﹑土地﹑文化﹑鄉情。。。。。。
一句話﹐【是「台灣人」本身就是資產】!!
The people of Taiwan were shocked, saddened and resented by Mr. Thomas Christensen’s speech. We strongly demand that Mr. Christensen apologize to the people of Taiwan and our President Chen for what he said that the UN membership referendum was “ill-conceived and harmful” and was for “domestic political pasturing”. Mr. Christensen is so very WRONG! The UN membership referendum is the PEOPLE’S CHOICE! The PEOPLE of TAIWAN are the BACKBONE of OUR PRESIDENT CHEN!!!
It is a rare opportunity for the people of Taiwan to read US high official’s speech transcript on an intensely debated issue right after the speech was made. We welcome this new and necessary practice and are looking forward to more US government’s direct dialogue with the people of Taiwan on an ongoing basis. Reading Thomas Christensen’s speech 《Strong and Moderate Taiwan》 just likes reading his mind.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (2)
Through this type of communication, the people of Taiwan could explicitly convey to the US government the MAINSTREAM opinions of (78%) the people of Taiwan’s desire and commitment for Taiwan to be accepted as a nation by the international community. We should:
1) Confidently demonstrate the people of Taiwan’s strong will, firm position and resolute pursuit of Taiwan Independence.
2) Strongly support President Chen for the people’s initiative to join UN under the name of Taiwan.
3) Persistently request direct dialogues among top government officials of Tiawan and USA.
4) Constantly monitor/evaluate the process of US government policy making regarding Taiwan.
5) Effectively send out the message: Independent Taiwan means independence from a tyranny--China ->> A Free and Democratic World without Communism.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (3)
I. The People of Taiwan were SHOCKED by Mr. Christensen’s speech.
The people of Taiwan were SHOCKED by Mr. Christensen’s speech because an US official as high as Tom Christensen is so out of touch with Taiwan’s reality.
The year of 2006 was a wakeup call for the people of Taiwan and a turning point of Taiwan society. After suffering from the so called 2006 “Anti-Corruption” episode conspired by KMT and Communist China, the people of Taiwan came to our own conclusion that this incident was in fact an evil event full of hatred towards Taiwanese in general and our President Chen and our government in particular. The deeply wounded Taiwanese have fundamentally changed their mentality and perspectives about KMT and China.
Taiwan society is undertaking a successful transformation from “Chinese-Center Society” to “Taiwanese-Center Society". 【Taiwanlism】 is now a MAINSTREAM opinion impacted on every level of our political, economical, and social life.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (4)
To say the least, someone in the US government is sleeping behind wheels or slow in catching up with the trend or the fast-pace changes in Taiwan political arena.
To say fairly, the ongoing transformation in Taiwan Society is such a phenomenal that even KMT is still at its disbelief. In addition, Taiwan media provided little exposure/discussion on these recent social/political changes since most TVs and newspapers are still controlled by KMT, which is notorious in fabricating stories and suppressing the DDP’s views.
To say accurately, Mr. Christensen dropped the ball completely when calling upon the people of Taiwan without even realizing Taiwan’s MAINSTREAM view of overwhelming support (78%) for the UN membership referendum in the name of Taiwan.
Mr. Christensen, you are not just against President Chen only! You are against 23 million people of Taiwan! That’s bad, very, very, very bad!!
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (5)
II. The People of Taiwan were SADDENED by Mr. Christensen’s speech.
The people of Taiwan were SADDENED by Mr. Christensen’s speech because we have realized that there is a gap between what Taiwan anticipates from US and what US might do. Both counties now have to bear the consequences of any decisions made by the US government, including misjudgment of the people of Taiwan.
Everybody knows in the world that Taiwan has always been a long-time royal friend of the America by accommodating all US needs, contributing what we could and even sacrificing our own interest, i.e., awaiting America’s readiness for Taiwan Republic.
The US government should NEVER take Taiwan for granted.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (6)
We don’t understand why Taiwan has been ISOLATED by the US-led international community whereas Taiwan has done everything correct as a model democratic nation or “an old friend” of the America.
We don’t understand why Mr. Christensen was so worried about “China’s Red Lines” when China is a Communist Dictatorship and “a good friend” with America’s enemies (Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, etc), all of whom USA want them to be ISOLATED.
We don’t understand why the people of Taiwan are now in survival mode and crying out loud for international assistance to stop Chinese Coercion of Taiwan while the US government was the first one to slam Taiwan, “an old friend” of the America.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (7)
However, we do understand one thing that is if the US government dare not to stand up against the increasingly out of control Communist China, the United States of America will no longer be perceived as moral, fair, legitimate authority by the international community.
It is a cup of tea for US government to say "NO" to a small country like Taiwan, but it takes God's given power and human courage even for the US government to say "NO, NO, NO" to the evil Communist China. Only when USA can say "NO" to China, USA will once again earn/win herself a well respected super power status for the next 50-100 years. To do otherwise, USA will continue to bear detrimental consequences from its misjudgment and the out of date "One-China Policy".
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (8)
III. The people of Taiwan were RESENTED by Mr. Christensen's speech.
The people of Taiwan were RESENTED by Mr. Christensen's speech because it is obvious that Mr. Christensen could only care about American interest and American interest only. His reasons to discredit the UN membership referendum can be characterized in 5 words--"America Interest" and "China's Red Lines". Hello, where is Taiwan interest?!
Further, Mr. Christensen's argument appears to be a copycat of the KMT's point of view. Mr. Christensen may not research raw data/information himself, but he must allocate sufficient resources (i.e., money and time for current information and first rated analysts) for this unique and delicate Taiwan issue.
It is unprofessional for Mr. Christensen to draw his conclusion from the stale data/information (i.e., “powerful, consistent support for the status quo”) and the single sided analysis without any input from Taiwan high officials.
Is China Just a BAD LUCK For USA?? (9)
In using Christensen's format, we could say: "Stale 'One-China Policy' is made no better for being consistent in the name of American Interest." After 30 year practice of "One-China Policy", the US government has assisted China in isolating Taiwan. The situation is getting worse as China has more leverage.
Isolated Taiwan is not a myth, but a truth that the people of Taiwan have to live in every day.
Political segregation of Taiwan is not a myth, but a humiliation to the entire people of Taiwan.
Non-acceptance of democratic Taiwan's UN membership is the worst case against the UN universal membership policy.
For the US government allowed democratic Taiwan to be suffocated by the Communist China, it is simply WRONG!!!
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Thank God, when Taiwan people are given opportunities to compete equally in free market, we can be so competitive and so successful in the world economy. It is the people of Taiwan’s' core competency, creativity and hard work earned Taiwan the 18th largest economic nation in the world. Had Taiwan not been able to win contracts all over the world, produce quality products at effective cost and market products at reasonable price, Taiwan would have been left out in the furious competition.
Would Taiwan also be economically isolated in addition to the political segregation?!
Can Taiwan’s integration with the world economy replace Taiwan’s isolation from the international community?
Why is Taiwanese not able to enjoy full service from a well respected embassy instead of minimum service from a representative office from foreign countries?
These are tough and serious questions that the people of Taiwan demand an answer.
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VI. The people of Taiwan cherish hopes and forward-looking vision for Taiwan-US relationship.
Reconciliation of Taiwan and US differences begins with acknowledgment and understanding of each other’s positions. The bottom line is:
1. Taiwan will complete the UN membership referendum and continue to vigorously pursue Taiwan Independence.
2. The US government clearly stated that ROC is NOT a country and that Taiwan is NOT part of China.
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We are confident that the Taiwan-US relationship will continue to be strong for the following reasons:
1) The international community cannot afford to lose Taiwan to the Communist China. To do contrary will send a dangerous message to the world you can get what you want as long as you are evil enough like China.
2) Taiwan and USA are bonded by democratic ideology, shared values and common interests of Asia security and world peace.
3) The US government should immediately revisit its policies of limiting direct communication with high level officials on both sides. Direct and frequent dialogues between the people-elected Presidents of both Taiwan and USA should be normalized.
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4) While USA was busy with China, USA has long lost its focus and perspective in Asia and Middle East. The US government will soon arrive at their own conclusion—the more US government deals with China, the more troubles there are that can tie their hands.
· Why is China a friend of every one of the American’s enemies, i.e., Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Cuba, a new list from Africa and Central America?
· Why 911 happened? – US trade deficit with China.
· Why is Iraq War still going on?—China’s sale of weapons.
· Who is behind Iran’s nuclear project? – China’s veto.
· Who is financing North Korea’s military and nuclear programs?—China is.
· What is China doing in oil-rich Africa and Central America? — China’s “new friends”.
5) Wake up, America!!! Who is ultimately funding terrorists at governmental level with the money they made from the Americans? CHINA!!!
Is China just a BAD LUCK for USA???!!! More than that!!!
以『台灣』之名申請加入聯合國,不是也without the suggestion of name change as part of that referendum?
以『台灣』之名申請加入聯合國,不是也without the suggestion of name change as part of that referendum?
柯慶生的談話中擺明國民黨的“返聯”和民進黨的“入聯”都是在放屁,作者真的很有本事,居然可以在聞出“民進黨”的屁比較香。哈哈哈哈哈哈哈!
哪裡有提的P這種氣體啊啊?你的鼻子還真是靈敏!呵呵~~看文章用鼻子。哈哈哈阿哈哈~~~
中國國民黨版的公投是自己放屁給自己聞
比較衛生的黨員都逃之夭夭避之唯恐不及
更好笑
國民黨即使當初不退出聯合國,也會被聯合國踢出來,為什麼,就是因為中共的關係,這也是當今台灣國際空間窄化的終極原因,不管用中華民國還是用台灣國,只要中共在一天,台灣就是踏不進聯合國,為什麼台灣人就是不懂這點,民進黨為了選舉,放出這帖春藥讓大家爽一爽,沒想到台灣人還真吃這一套,所以國民黨也放出另一帖春藥讓大家high上天,請問一下,真這麼在乎台灣,為什麼連國號正名為台灣這樣的字都擺不進決議文?建立台灣國不是民進黨的終極目標嗎,說穿了還不是用台灣這個模糊的字眼讓民進黨有更多政治操作的空間,哪是為了台灣,因為現在只要口號跟台灣有關係就準會讓台灣人爽,讓我們選台灣的總統吧,讓我們一起愛台灣吧,讓我們一起FUCK台灣吧!
想不到豬也會打字?而且也會用鼻子看文章?奇事奇事!
中共那麼厲害的,當初是誰准讓牠進入聯和國?自己批准嗎?這樣不對啊~~還沒進入聯和國,怎麼批准?就好像有人還不是台塑的員工,就自以為是台塑的董事長總經理嗎,可以批准公文?呵呵~~詐騙集團嗎?
不過有些豬話也算是罵的好。民進黨認為這些諸人會因為討好就爬樹票投民進黨嗎?別傻了!豬即使會爬樹,也不會把票投給民進黨。